When did Arizona completely lose it's ever-loving mind?
We haven't discussed the controversial immigration bill yet, but I'm sure everyone is well aware that recently, Arizona passed a law requiring state police to stop any person who looks illegal and require them to show proof that they are U.S. Citizens. We've seen some supporters of this law contend that it's about illegals, and those hispanics shouldn't have anything to hide if they're not illegals, and out of the other side of their mouths insist it's not about race. You and I have fewer civil liberties in Arizona, regardless of intent, and I recommend you avoid the state. Give your tourism dollars to Nevada or Texas instead - they're more fun anyway.
Well, if you had any doubt that *something* big in Arizona is going on in regards to race - they've gone and done it.
They have passed a law making it illegal to teach "ethnic studies."
From Fox News: "The new bill would make it illegal for a school district to teach any courses that promote the overthrow of the U.S. government, promote resentment of a particular race or class of people, are designed primarily for students of a particular ethnic group or "advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals."
How do they define "ethnic"? They've so graciously allowed Holocaust studies (Irony?) and Native American teachings. Does that BAN African American History month? Does it BAN me from holding a Polish cooking class (you should really taste my Pieroge). Is it really illegal to study "ethnic"?
This is America! America is about 100 different ethniticities! How do you just "BAN" that? What the Hell, Arizona?
When did Arizona get taken over by white supremacists? I know that's strong language, but honestly - what other conclusion should we come to? We know, and they have to know, that all of this crap is going to get overturned the second someone challenges it in the court system. Why pass it other than to say (without really saying) we don't want you here if you aren't like us?
UPDATE: They've also banned teachers with accents from teaching English. Draw your own conclusions. I will not apply, I have a southern accent.







"They've also banned teachers with accents from teaching English."
Ohh Myy! I find that funny! I wonder who determines who has an accent....or what pronunciation is construed as accentual...
Seriously, though, isn't it nice for once, that Texans don't look like the biggest, most racist idiots in the country?
Okay, let me work backwards from the Fox quote, "The new bill would make it illegal for a school district to teach any courses that promote the overthrow of the U.S. government, promote resentment of a particular race or class of people, are designed primarily for students of a particular ethnic group or "advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals."
1) Illegal to teach any courses that promote the overthrow of the U.S. government.
Damn, and I thought we could slip Espionage and Sedition 101 past them this year. The unit on blowing up government buildings was going to be a riot.
I'm glad that portion of the law is on the books. I was getting worried every time I saw that course in the electives section.
2) Promote resent of a particular race or class of people.
No, and your new immigration law doesn't do that at all. Don't worry, the "Kill the white man" course is just down the hall from my Espionage and Sedition class.
3) No classes designed primarily for students of a particular ethnic group or race "or advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment pupils as individuals."
Okay, now we get to the heart of the matter. You want to treat people as individuals and yet if they look pretty brown we assume they are illegal. Okay, not feeling the irony? Like Carguy I am part Cherokee as well. I think my great grandmother was full-blooded. Who knows, that may make me more Cherokee. I didn't bring it up because it really isn't a part of my immediate upbringing, but when you consider that I am also 1/4 Sicilian, I can get pretty dark in the summer. My dad is considerably darker. I guess we should cancel that golfing trip to Arizona.
As for teaching about individuality, I guess I would have to differ with the keens minds of Arizona and say that this really isn't part of the human experience. We started in tribes and graduated to government. In all cases, we have some kind of familial or cultural connection with others. It may be faint or non-elaborate, but it is nothing to shun or be afraid of. I personally think that teaching people that they are completely independent of what came before them and their own personal heritage is a dangerous thing. It's part of who we are and to deny that is to deny a large part of ourselves. We certainly shouldn't be limited by that past, but we can't deny it either.
I've got a couple saws. Maybe if we all get together, we can hew the state off the continental shelf and push it into the ocean.
Seriously, though, _what_ have they been putting in the legislators' coffee? Essence of white bigot? That sure ain't no cream.
And as for the pierogies, pleeeeeeese save a few for me!
this could be relevant, maybe not. but if obama had not tapped napolitano for homeland security and sebilius for health & human servces, their respective states might have remained rational a bit longer. of course he gets the benefit of having them in the cabinet, but it did occur to me that the law signed by arizona had been rejected by the former gov.
Nope. Not joking. I thought it was the Onion at first, but it's not.
Surely this will make most conservatives uncomfortable with the way thing are going...it has to!!!
AstrosGirlKel, you are joking -- right? And no, I will not look at the link before dinner....
Like I could spell the name of them - lol!
I think this should be flashed as an official paper: From Wikipedia
Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives, values, and systems such as the political system and the economy. Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right of the conventional left-right political spectrum, although some scholars claim that fascism has been influenced by both the left and the right.
Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong. They claim that culture is created by collective national society and its state, that cultural ideas are what give individuals identity, and thus rejects individualism. In viewing the nation as an integrated collective community, they claim that pluralism is a dysfunctional aspect of society, and justify a totalitarian state as a means to represent the nation in its entirety. They advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascist governments forbid and suppress openness and opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement. They identify violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality.
Fascists reject and resist autonomy of cultural or ethnic groups who are not considered part of the fascists' nation and who refuse to assimilate or are unable to be assimilated. They consider attempts to create such autonomy as an affront and threat to the nation.
Fascism is strongly opposed to core aspects of the Enlightenment and is an opponent of liberalism, Marxism, and mainstream socialism for being associated with failures that fascists claim are inherent in the Enlightenment. Fascists view egalitarianism, materialism, and rationalism as failed elements of the Enlightenment. They oppose liberalism — as a bourgeois movement
cuban?
But, hey, we're not complaining. It was our own fault. We appreiate the free land (reservations), casino gambling, and that naming so many of your sports teams for us, that's nice. And that "Indian Head" nickel.......that was very thoughful.
Those people get a lot of sun exposure there. UV-A, UV-B, Gamma rays........then again, they could just be stupid somebitches.
My 1/16th Cherokee, is THAT ethnic?
Shortstuff wrote: I'm sure there are a bunch of native Americans who are wondering why their ancestors didn't just shoot the first European settlers and be done with it.)
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If we had been the ones with the rifles, I assure you we would have. I told them all at the recent Native American AA meeting, that bow and arrow thing cost us a whole damn continent. We had gunpowder, we just used it for rain dances, incantations and healing potions. "Medicine men"...bunch of quacks.
We'll know it's bad when the Teabaggers say Arizona is too conservative for them.
It's hard to make a rational comment on this one. We do talk about apparent racism since President Obama took office but this has taken the country about two steps (at least) backward. When I flew a lot on business I was always one of the passengers chosen for extended searches, if I lived in AZ now would I be stopped twice a block, so I could prove I was not illegal ?
I would be willing to bet that McCain has come out in favor of this so he can garner more votes and be re-elected by the white majority.
She will do that when you hand over the Cuban beans...just sayin'.
In their next referendum, they'll be changing their state name to 'Neckitopia...
on a side note, i'm outside your house...hand over the pieroge and no one gets hurt
They're saying, if you are not Wendy WASP or Walter WASP, they don't want you in their pristine desert state. Or your tourist dollars, evidently.
Damn, this is what you get from 40 years of ultra-rightwing-neoconservative bullshit in America.
(I'm sure there are a bunch of native Americans who are wondering why their ancestors didn't just shoot the first European settlers and be done with it.)
Well, once again I am speechless.
Is this what we have become? A country of hate?