This is getting further and further out of hand every day. The fact that anyone is even suggesting a military coup in the United States is frightening. John L. Perry today at Newsmax.com:
"There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.
America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn't mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it. So, view the following through military eyes:
Officers swear to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Unlike enlisted personnel, they do not swear to "obey the orders of the president of the United States."
Top military officers can see the Constitution they are sworn to defend being trampled as American institutions and enterprises are nationalized.
They can see that Americans are increasingly alarmed that this nation, under President Barack Obama, may not even be recognizable as America by the 2012 election, in which he will surely seek continuation in office.
...So, if you are one of those observant military professionals, what do you do?
...Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a "family intervention," with some form of limited, shared responsibility?
Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.
Military intervention is what Obama's exponentially accelerating agenda for "fundamental change" toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama's radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible."
Someone should acquaint Mr. Perry with 18 U.S.C. 2385:
"Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government;
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.."
"There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.
America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn't mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it. So, view the following through military eyes:
Officers swear to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Unlike enlisted personnel, they do not swear to "obey the orders of the president of the United States."
Top military officers can see the Constitution they are sworn to defend being trampled as American institutions and enterprises are nationalized.
They can see that Americans are increasingly alarmed that this nation, under President Barack Obama, may not even be recognizable as America by the 2012 election, in which he will surely seek continuation in office.
...So, if you are one of those observant military professionals, what do you do?
...Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a "family intervention," with some form of limited, shared responsibility?
Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.
Military intervention is what Obama's exponentially accelerating agenda for "fundamental change" toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama's radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible."
Someone should acquaint Mr. Perry with 18 U.S.C. 2385:
"Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government;
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.."
I swear, some of the stuff these guys have wet dreams about just cracks me right the hell up.
There is simply not going to be a military coup against Obama. Fox News likes to pretend that this sort of thing is reality, but it's nothing more than one asshole winger talking to another.
Note to plotters of secession and uprising: the United States has a VERY large and powerful military force. Be very careful of what you ask for.
They must have read your article and my 11:23 post.
Hooooooraaaaa.
Cut to mind's view of "dodge ball" game. (We called it bombardment)
Thwack.........got one in the nads. No ice for you Perry.
It looks like Newsmax has pulled the story. The link now goes to their front page.
According to Perry:
"Military intervention is what Obama's exponentially accelerating agenda for "fundamental change" toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama's radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible."
I gotta tell ya.....if this is MY call.....this dude's already got "one toe over the line".
Book 'em Dano.
I'm pretty sure than anybody who has a vested career in the military of the United States is NOT gonna take up arms against the government. He or she or it has WAAAAY too much to lose and verrrrry little to gain. Not to mention that the odds are, how you say, loooong against THAT succeeding.
IN my EXPERIENCE, MOST of our US military, local and state police, and federal law enforcement take their job PRETTY DAMN SERIOUSLY and have an itchy trigger finger for people on the wrong side of this issue.
You can BITCH about the government all you want. Try an armed takeover of the government.......that's gonna be a short lived hobby for sure.
Actually, these right wingnuts may talk a good game. But when they need someone to pick up a weapon and "stand a post".....I'll bet they get few takers.
The HUGE bulk of these cowards are the kind that, when the first "volley" of balls come at them in dodge ball, they pretend they're hit and get out. Trust me on this.
We only need remember Timothy McVea and the religious and political zealots in Waco and West Texas to remind ourselves that as small a group as they are, we got dangerous people in this country. Seriously dangerous.
We NEED to arrest a few and throw them in jail to discourage the rest. No leader, no followers.
A military coup in this country. That's laughable. Too many of the people that one would recruit have WAY too much money invested in the status quo to risk it. If anyone thinks there are Jeffersons, and Adams, and Patrick Henry's among THAT group, you are insane. Nothing but a bunch of lazy bastards hoping someone else will do their bidding.
I said it yesterday. I've said it before. Many predicted it. The Internet "breeds" crackpots. It gives them a forum they never had before.
OTOH, it makes identifying these crackpots much easier. I don;t think we've had someone arrested and tried for "treason" for many years. Maybe it's time we did.
Holy treasonous teabaggers Batman ! WTF is wrong with these people ? I, like many others here, couldn't stand G.W. Bush, but I would never even have suggested an armed insurrection to remove him from office. If you would have asked me a year ago about the possibility of a second Civil War happening in my lifetime I would have called you crazy. Now, I see it as a real possibility.
From the NewsMax story:
"Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars."
To me, this sounds a lot like Blackwater, or whatever they've changed their name to. And since they're basically soldiers of fortune, how far fetched is it that right wingers would secretly fund these people to overthrow the elected administration and install their own ? Scary times my friends.
On a side note, you gotta just love how the dipshit who wrote this article was able to work in a crack about teleprompters. Surprised there was no mention of birth certificates as well. F'n losers.
LOL, you all think it won't happen? Apparently most are not aware of what the right-wingers are capable of.
I hope that the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security are closely watching and monitoring these people. I say arrest them, bring them in for questioning. Why do sane and rational people have to be subjected to this stuff? We need to worry about the folks that are actually taking these comments and suggestions to heart. They really do seriously believe this. That is what is truly scary.
If they are saying these types of things openly the waht are they saying in private ? Thats what bothers me. An individual making these comments in public is just an idiot looking for attention and the odds are hes not gonna do anything. But those who hold their comments close are the closet radical right who are capable of most anything.
I actually had a real live person (not an anonymous online commenter) tell me that while he wouldn't take up arms against the government on his own, he would join the ranks if others did. It's a scary society we're living in today, mainly because of the fear that has been instilled in small-minded people by nutjob media outlets like Newsmax.
Has this whack job been anywhere near a "military officer", much less served? This constant right wing delusional disregard for facts is just incomprehensible. All military officers AND enlisted personnel have the same oath to "defend the Constitution" and report via the chain of command to the Commander in Chief (i.e. President Obama).
Does this looney tune REALLY believe Admiral Mullen (Joint Chiefs of Staff), General McChrystal (Commander in Afghanistan), General Odierno (Commander in Iraq) or any other highly skilled, trained, and INTELLIGENT flag ranked or even junior field officers are going to turn against President Obama?
And hello, how do you effect an "officers only coup"? They don't know how to drive (or fire) tanks, Bradleys, or even how to fire a 50 cal. They can't do a thing without their enlisted crew. And his only correct statement is that yes, this isn't some third world tinpot or old Soviet style dictatorship. As part of our military training, we were taught that we are allowed and encouraged across the board to disobey an unlawful order. i.e. you are personally, morally, and legally responsible if you shoot an unarmed prisoner, no matter who tells you to do it. And the most egaliatarian, non-political, merit-based, ethnically diverse institution of the linchpin epitome of Democracy is going to unilaterally and monolithically overthrow an immensely popular, legitimately elected President of the United States of America? Just because he's Black?
Ooooookaaaayyyyy. Someone's been sucking on one tea bag too many.
I actually had a real live person (not an anonymous online commenter) tell me that while he wouldn't take up arms against the government on his own, he would join the ranks if others did. It's a scary society we're living in today, mainly because of the fear that has been instilled in small-minded people by nutjob media outlets like Newsmax.
And most importantly, all white.
I'm sure their idea of an interim government is all GOP, all the time.
NIGHTMARE.
Holy crap!
At what point can we arrest these damnfool morons for TREASON?
I fear for my country. I truly do. These whackjobs are out of control.
I guess the statement "The South Shall Rise Again" is on peoples' minds. They cannot tolerate a "negro" in the White House. It is the ultimate threat to their need for control and white supremacy.
It's crazy talk, because the military I see respect the President and his office. It isn't the military who is wanting this coupe, it is a bunch of unhappy losers with guns... lots of guns.
When you see a person who is openly threatening the life of the president, please report it to the local Houston FBI. They WILL follow up. We have to defeat them, one crazy at a time.
i do not wish to be "chicken little saying the sky is falling" but it is no longer possible to ignore the growing trend of threatened violence against obama. today i ran across a crazy website that sells "gear" for men & ladies, something i found snooping around that crazy conservative underground. some of the poster and t-shirt slogans were to the effect of "sometimes violence is the only answer" and other such bull. i remember things saying bush was a moron, even a war criminal, so i know my side has let frustration get the tongue wagging. but honestly i cannot recall physical threats, certainly things that rise to the level of current threat level. my concern is that all the anti-abortion rhetoric turned into hateful speech, and that turned a crazy loose in a church of all places. said crazy felt perfectly justified in discharging a weapon and killing a doctor during a worship service. so point (a) to point (b) is a proven possibility to point (c).
Why must we suffer these attacks upon our President?
Oh my God.